M John Harrison On Worldbuilding

April 14th, 2007 | researchmaterial

This is just glorious:

Every moment of a science fiction story must represent the triumph of writing over worldbuilding.

Worldbuilding is dull. Worldbuilding literalises the urge to invent. Worldbuilding gives an unnecessary permission for acts of writing (indeed, for acts of reading). Worldbuilding numbs the reader’s ability to fulfil their part of the bargain, because it believes that it has to do everything around here if anything is going to get done.

Above all, worldbuilding is not technically necessary. It is the great clomping foot of nerdism. It is the attempt to exhaustively survey a place that isn’t there. A good writer would never try to do that, even with a place that is there. It isn’t possible, & if it was the results wouldn’t be readable: they would constitute not a book but the biggest library ever built, a hallowed place of dedication & lifelong study. This gives us a clue to the psychological type of the worldbuilder & the worldbuilder’s victim, & makes us very afraid.

22 Responses to “M John Harrison On Worldbuilding”

  1. [...] my daily spate of rss feeds and blogs, the inestimable Warren Ellis pointed out a fantastic post on M John Harrison’s blog, that’s worth quoting: Every [...]

  2. The Sin of Worldbuilding…

    Forgive me, Warren, but I must disagree. Every moment of a science fiction story must represent the triumph of writing over worldbuilding. Worldbuilding is dull. Worldbuilding literalises the urge to invent. Worldbuilding gives an unnecessary permissio…

  3. Yes, I guess in the writer’s imagination the world should be built before he puts words on the page. He should be confident in the veracity of it before he begins. If he is creating it as he writes, he is writing it, rather than writing from within it.

  4. “A good writer would never try to do that, even with a place that is there.”

    Much of James Joyce’s reputation lies on doing just that.

  5. Worldbuilding can be done in an interesting way – isn’t Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius mostly worldbuilding?

    Of course, it helps if you’re writing about a very interesting world.

  6. [...] Judd, who got it from Warren Ellis, who got it from M John Harrison: Every moment of a science fiction story must represent the [...]

  7. Maybe i am dense but didnt both tolkien and Steinbek build their reputaitions on “worldbuilding” for their audience? Now some might argue that both of those authors are nearly unreadable. and i might not disagree. but they are still considered Literary Giants for world both *there* and *not there*

  8. I’d be more impressed if Harrison wasn’t such a dedicated recycler of his own work (which I guess explains this affected despite, as the fox said to his twin who’d lost his tail) — while he _has_ had his moments, some of them very fine indeed, he resuses material more than a stand-up comic who’s standing next to Jo Brand and doesn’t want his new stuff nicked.

    Like most things, worldbuilding can be done well or badly. Sometimes it’s vital and sometimes Alan Moore just needs to show up and kick a tank shell in the face.

    I suspect that when Harrison read KJ Bishop’s _The Etched City_, he retroactively cursed his entire life with an insidious thin resenting worm….read his short stories (in particular) and tell me that man can keep the scissors off his nose for a minute.

    (Don’t anyone show him _Planetary_ without a mop and a bucket to put him in afterwards.)

  9. [...] 14th, 2007 The inestimable Warren Ellis enjoys very afraid; while over at Ed Champion’s Return of the Reluctant, China speaks (literally). For the [...]

  10. Agreed. Some of the best writing gives minimal details and leaves the rest up to your imagination. Case in point : HP Lovecraft. Sure he created dreamlands and nearly his own universe….but he only told you a little about it, didn’t he?

  11. Piffle.

  12. I guess he’s easily frightened. He’s right to imply that the act of world-building can’t be used as a replacement for writing, and it shouldn’t be allowed to overshadow a story, but to dismiss the entire exercise as “nerdism” is absurd (and as something of a nerd, I don’t appreciate this guy sneering at me). World-building is essential in some cases, even if the construct remains entirely in the writer’s mind and not a lick of the detail makes it to the story.

  13. It’s pretty easy to cross that line between establishing an atmosphere from which the story gets its start to falling overly in love with the setting and leaving story and character by the wayside in favor of “Look how imaginative I can be.”

    I, honestly, never got easily through the first 100 pages of Fellowship because I would always get incredibly tired reading about Hobbit genealogy. Of course, in Tolkien’s time that kind of expansive writing was more or less the way of things. Presently, we live in a different age of storytelling, one heavily influenced by faster-paced mediums like film and television.

    When I write, I like to get crazy-specific about a few details of my setting and let it go at that, then allow the story to guide the evolution of the world rather than restricting the story to a model world in my head. That may allow the story to drive the world into becoming a whole new animal, if what I had set fast in my mind turns out not to play with the story as much as I had expected. And then I can go back and polish the setting in rewrites.

  14. [...] the last few days (us sf obsessives are so far ahead, it’s just sick) – amazing what a Warren Ellis link can do for a [...]

  15. Worldbuilding is there to support the writing, not the other way around. If your writing is supporting the worldbuilding, you’re not telling a story, you’re writing a Star Wars Sourcebook

  16. I somewhat agree with Mr. Harrison’s interpretation. Worldbuilding can be very banal insofar as mise-en-scenic fodder and the addiction to referencing past continuity. Both of those details tend to lay the characters on the altar and sacrifice them to exposition. Setting and continuity matter but they should be a reflection the protagonist’s journey not an excuse to sell action figures. On the other hand it can be very pleasurable to experience the mechanics of a well realized world. You can form a relationship to the world because the deas and, albeit, single-note characters become familiar and comforting… Mr. Spock comes to mind. So I guess the moral of the story is don’t use your powers for evil.

  17. Now, see, I like worldbuilding, at least when done well. Or at least I like very clever frameworks on which a multitude of stories can be told consistently, and maybe that’s how I define worldbuilding, and perhaps that definition doesn’t entirely meet what he’s talking about. IMHO the author should build the world to a reasonable level of stability, but only reveal such parts as are necessary for the reader to grok the story within that setting.

  18. The over-reliance on world-building is the primary reason I could never get into Tolkien, and I suspect it is also the biggest problem with the last 3 Star Wars movies from Lucas.

  19. Philip K Dick, in “Ubik” (I think) needs to get his hero from San Fran to New York quickly, and does it thus:

    “…he went to the airport and caught the next available flapple and was in New York half an hour later…”

    What’s a “flapple”? No idea, Dick never says or mentions it again…world building? Nope not on his watch.

  20. Dick may have used a flapple. but it’s important to note that he didn’t use say a plane that just happened to be able to go fast enough, because flapple doesn’t just allow you to do what you want but it also implies a change in technology not just an improvement (fast plane). It also isn’t just a teleporter, teleporters change the dynamic of the world and change how things could work.
    Don’t assume just because some one doesn’t explain a bit of world building it wasn’t thought about, or that it doesn’t contribuite to building the world for the reader.

  21. From Mr. Harrison himself, found at:

    http://www.fantasticmetropolis.com/i/viriconium/

    “The commercial fantasy that has replaced [great fantasies] is often based on a mistaken attempt to literalise someone else’s metaphor, or realise someone else’s rhetorical imagery. For instance, the moment you begin to ask (or rather to answer) questions like, “Yes, but what did Sauron look like?”; or, “Just how might an Orc regiment organise itself?”; the moment you concern yourself with the economic geography of pseudo-feudal societies, with the real way to use swords, with the politics of courts, you have diluted the poetic power of Tolkien’s images. You have brought them under control. You have tamed, colonised and put your own cultural mark on them.”

  22. [...] my daily spate of rss feeds and blogs, the inestimable Warren Ellis pointed out a fantastic post on M John Harrison’s blog, that’s worth quoting: Every [...]

Monocle Mediterraneo Missteps

Jean Snow - 08 Sep 10

Monocle Mediterraneo

I finally received my issue of the Monocle Mediterraneo summer newspaper today, but it wasn’t easy. I ordered it in early August, and after a month going by with still no paper in my mailbox (they promise delivery in two weeks) I finally decided to get in touch on Monday. To their credit, they immediately got back to me, and said that they would send me another copy using registered mail, and it has arrived today (although I suspect it may just be the original issue that was mailed out, which would mean it took 5 weeks for delivery).

The reason I bring this up is because from the feedback I’ve gotten through Twitter after I started wondering “out loud” where my issue was, I got quite a few responses from others having similar problems, so my example is far from being an isolated case. What’s to blame? Is it the UK mail service? It is rather disappointing to receive a copy of something that celebrates summer in September, a frustration compounded by the fact that a few weeks ago I stopped by the Monocle Shop in Aoyama and saw it sold for 500 yen — ordering it online costs 7 pounds, which is almost double. Quite surprising considering that the Japan cover price for regular issues of Monocle is 2310 yen (almost $30), which itself is ridiculous.

But despite these complaints, it really is a beautiful thing. The paper’s smell may have turned into a joke, but its pages really do have a great, almost nostalgic odor. I love the format and the size, and would really like to see more publications/magazines use it — and it sounds like we can already expect Monocle to repeat the experiment during the winter holidays.

Test Patterns Are Everywhere (in the Industry)

Jean Snow - 08 Sep 10

TV Test Pattern

As a follow-up to yesterday’s post on the use of test patterns as a graphical element, many people reminded me on Twitter that it’s still very much in use in the industry (video and TV production) or film school, and so a lot of people still deal with these quite regularly, so it’s not that far fetched to still be in use as a graphical association with the medium. I guess we should treat it the same way a film reel is still often used to represent anything that relates to movies.

Remembering Ana Mendieta

Coilhouse - 08 Sep 10

Tonight, I can’t stop thinking about one of the more influential, yet relatively obscure artists at work during the post-Happenings decade. Ana Mendieta:


From Ana Mendieta’s “Body Tracks” series, 1970s.

It’s all too easy to scoff at raw, bloody, chthonic feminist performance art these days. Hell, it’s all too easy to scoff at just about anything that whiffs of pussy power. After all, this is 2010! No need for histrionics, right? We’ve been liberated, reborn. We’re fierce and comfortable, right? We’ve seen it all a hundred times before… rrrriiiiiight?

Then again, what Alice Miller said about scorn holds a lot of sway: ?Contempt is the weapon of the weak and a defense against one’s own despised and unwanted feelings.? In light of that assessment, whether one chooses to roll their eyes or not, Mendieta’s (earth-)body of work, and the circumstances under which she died, resonate as much right now as they did in the 1970s and early 80s. (Although, come to think of it, there were plenty of eye-rollers then, too.)

In any case, on the 15th anniversary of her mysterious death, I’m lighting candles for Ana Mendieta and wondering what comes next.

(Read more after the jump.)


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Post tags: Adornment, Art, Flora & Fauna, Gender, Grrrl, Memento Mori, Multiculti, Revolutionary, Sculpture, Sexuality

Cthulhu Cthursday: The H. P. Lovecraft Film Festival(s)

Ectoplasmosis - 08 Sep 10

That’s right. Los Angeles this weekend. Portland, Oregon next month. Can’t say I’ve been, unfortunately, but always hear about good stuff getting screened at the fest.

After you watch Mike Boas’ promo above, you can check out the official site for the festivals.

H. P. Lovecraft Film Festival
Promo by Mike Boas [Youtube]


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NEXT 2010 talk

Open The Future - 08 Sep 10

I was in Denmark last week, speaking at NEXT 2010. The subject... geoengineering (dun dun DUN).

Here's the talk.

When I watched a part of it, the sound was off-sync with the video, so fair warning.

And fun game for any of my talks: count the "Jazz Hands"!

Maleonn?s Second-Hand Tang Poem

Coilhouse - 08 Sep 10

Second-hand Tang Poem, Maleonn’s series from 2007, is only a small sample of a portfolio overflowing with surrealistic delights, but it is among my favorites. These black and white dioramas tell the story of a mystical, far off land ? a tale both somber and silly. It’s a dichotomy seen throughout his work and he uses this balancing act to great effect. His work isn’t on exhibition in the US at the moment, but he does have a show at Blindspot Gallery in Hong Kong.


Read the rest of Maleonn’s Second-Hand Tang Poem


Post tags: Art, Fairy Tales, Photography, Surreal

LINKS: 8 SEPTEMBER 2010

John Robb - 08 Sep 10

Some items of interest:

  • OpenPCR.  An open source version of a high cost tool for biohacking, got double the funding it needed on Kickstarter.  More on the team behind it.
  • Inside/outside refrigeration/cooling system.  Begs the question:  what would be the savings of a refrigerator that leveraged outside air temp intelligently?
  • Shot spotter.  Being installed within lots of American cities.  Audio surveillance that can locate a gunshot within 35 ft.  See inset. Shotspotter
  • Gang maps of LA.  The alternative political landscape.
  • Quran burning in Florida.  Right Wing Extreme, an armed militia, will protect the "Dove World Outreach Center" during it's first annual 9/11 Quran burning.  RWE is currently running a poll on its site:  "Do you think it's time for a second American Revolution?"  Charles C points out that RWE has withdrawn from the effort (see comments below).
  • Haystack.  A project to foil national firewalls and state monitoring in Iran (China and Egypt next). Newsweek did an article on the leader of the project, Austin Heap and this turned up: When I first met Heap in January, he was regularly shuttling to Washington, D.C., for meetings at State and Treasury and with senior lawmakers.  
  • Global police crack down on the open source insurgency, the Scene. They (the police) just wanted to know who or whom had used two different IPs during a couple of dates in 2009. Since we did not have this information (no logging) there was no information and/or hardware for them to seize. The police did not enter the datacenter, only the office, so no servers or network have been touched by them.

JOURNAL: GG Entrepreneurs Displace Mexico's Control Over PEMEX

John Robb - 08 Sep 10

Global guerrilla entrepreneurs, super-empowered by direct connections to the dominant global marketplace (a market that is relatively indifferent to the provenance of the supplies it demands), are taking control of the Burgos basin, home to Mexico's biggest natural gas fields.  To accelerate this seizure, these enterprising guerrillas (likely a Zeta offshoot) are kidnapping oil workers working for PEMEX (as Zenpundit kindly notes, this is a playbook we have seen before -- India, Iraq, and Nigeria).  Here are some choice GG quotes from the LATimes article about it:

"How is it, that Pemex, supposedly the backbone of the nation, can be made to bow down like this?" -- relative of a kidnapped worker.  

"These are territories where the organized crime infrastructure, inside and outside of the police forces, has established power ? a parallel power, a parallel government. That territory is in the hands of a parallel power that has penetrated the government at all levels." Alejandro Gertz   NOTE: This is a nice description of a hollow state.

NOTE, we'll see variants of this in the US as the global economic depression worsens. 

Thor 614 Out (Tomorrow)

Kieron Gillen - 08 Sep 10

In the US today tomorrow and tomorrow tomorrowtomorrow in the UK, my Thor run reaches its conclusion…

(Unless you’re in Canada. When it reaches it comes out nottomorrow. As in, today.)

Here’s CBR’s review and and you can read the preview here. Which thankfully cuts off before something particularly spoilerific. And as much as I’d like to do a looking-back-on-my-run post, I’m resisting saying anything else, because I’d risk doing the Spoilerific thing myself. It’s not over until those 22 pages fall between your fingers, with our array of final confrontations and the reading of the fine print.

As a whole, the run’s worked better than I could have ever hoped for. None of the three stories were in an easy situation, and that they even worked at all pleases me. I’ve few regrets about what I did and only a handful of what I didn’t do (More with the Broxtonites, Blake, Sif). And all those regrets aren’t really regrets at all, because I don’t think I could have played it any other way. It helped that I was working with such a fantastic string of artists, all of whom were up against it as much as I was. Billy, Rich and Doug - I salute you. Niko for New Mutants too. And, as always, McKelvie gets his own special, less complimentary kind of salute.

Most of all, I’m pleased that, no matter how random its ever-extending nature seemed to be, it’s a body of work. Stick those 11 issues of Thor with the Loki and New Mutants issues in a trade paper-back, and you’ve got something with clear themes and defined character arcs. Also, lots of hitting. The genre will not be denied.

It’s been fun and thanks for reading to those who read.

*****

Another thing strikes me. This is the last comic I have out before November when Generation Hope debuts. When I’ve had as much on the shelves in the last year as I have, that seems like a spookily large gap. The odd thing being, I’m not writing any less comics now than I have been. This month is Generation Hope, my second Avatar book and something else. And it’s a fun something else which I suspect will cause the most communal eyebrow raises since… well, since I was put on Thor.

So, expect this blog to lean more towards interview posts in the near future. Expecting shouting.

What Do These Colors Mean to You?

Jean Snow - 07 Sep 10

Rolling Stone

Last night I was reading through the latest issue of Rolling Stone — really loved the cover feature on Mad Men, as well as the profile on SNL creator Lorne Michaels — and seeing how they branded the issue’s theme (“Fall Television”) made me wonder just how relevant that particular imagery really is these days. The branding in question is what you see pictured above — it appears with all of the TV-related articles in the issue — and is of course inspired by the TV test patterns of old (pictured below, and technically known as “SMPTE color bars,” as I learned through Wikipedia).

Television Test Pattern

As a retro effect, it works — I certainly remember them — but has anyone under the age of 20 ever seen one? As far as I know — and keep in mind that I’ve been living in Japan for 10+ years — they haven’t been used in at least a decade, and not just because they’re not necessary anymore (in this world of digital sets), but also because we live in a world with 24-hour broadcasts.

I’m just curious as to whether it’s still a good icon or image to use when referring to TV, although I’m the first to admit that I liked how it was used, and I can’t think of anything off-hand that would work better.