Missouri May Make Christianity Its Official Religion

March 6th, 2006 | researchmaterial

Missouri legislators in Jefferson City considered a bill that would name Christianity the state’s official “majority” religion.

House Concurrent Resolution 13 has is pending in the state legislature. Many Missouri residents had not heard about the bill until Thursday.

The resolution would recognize “a Christian god,” and it would not protect minority religions, but “protect the majority’s right to express their religious beliefs.

The resolution also recognizes that, “a greater power exists,” and only Christianity receives what the resolution calls, “justified recognition…”


29 Responses to “Missouri May Make Christianity Its Official Religion”

  1. In fucking “Jefferson” City, no less. This is what’s known as The Bad Irony.

  2. I never understood religions that claim their higher power is a loving one who likes people. My god likes people too, but he likes them on a bun, or chopped up and mixed with pasta.

  3. Oh, and the actual text of the resolution is available on-line.

  4. *Shudder* Damn, this is just one state over from me too. The U. S. is so fucked up. I wish I could believe this wasn’t likely to pass. And Morose, I think the whole loving god thing is just good PR; according to the bible Jehova is more of a vain and vengeful child god.

  5. What the heck happened to religous freedom and the protection from the government? I seem to have a problem against any religion that can’t win people on it own and has to resort to being total pricks inorder to spread the word.

  6. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
    prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”

    I’m not a lawyer, but wouldn’t Missouri’s proposal conflict ever so slightly with the passage above?

  7. Well, hey, it could be worse. They could be worshipping the Death Cookie.

    “If you don’t obey us… We won’t let you eat the Jesus cookie anymore.”

  8. So much for separation of church and state – fucktards!

    May as well wipe our asses with the constitution…our government certainly has no problem shitting on it.

  9. Wasn’t there a census in Australia where enough citezens wrote Jedi on the form it was technically a minority religion?

  10. What’s sad about this is that if it were a resolution to outlaw guns or liquor, the whole country would be freaking out.

  11. This is probably the scariest thing I have read in a long time. Somehow, that MO also wants to ban gay couples from adopting (as my boyfriend and I want to do) is less disturbing to me than this. And to think that I, a MO resident, read this on Warren Fucking Ellis’s blog tells you how unimportant this shit is to actual Americans.

    Maybe I’ll be more coherent tomorrow, after I pick my jaw up from the floor.

  12. As a Missouri native I can say with some authority that most of us don’t care what goes on in Jefferson City

  13. Luckily, it’s only a resolution so it can’t become law.
    Still ridiculous and a sad display of the pervailing culture in America, but for now (though how long I’m scared to predict) it’s got no legal weight.

  14. The “Blow me state” err I mean “Show me state”, shows it’s ass again…
    I proubly shouldn’t admit this..
    but that’s where I was born *hides*
    Thank the Goddess I got out of there…
    I only lived there for my first 2 years of life.. but still.
    I’m just waiting for GA/Atlanta or whatnot to pull simalar shit.. being the bible-belt and all.

    Time to move to Germany…

  15. Peaked, i think, on further study, that most gods act like spoiled children, whether it’s the fussy two-year-old blend of naps and wanton destruction of Cthulhu and crew or the vindictive petty highschool drama of the Hellenic pantheon.

    I can’t help but wonder if people are a bad influence on their gods.

  16. …isn’t oral sex still illegal in Utah? What will they think up next? What happened to that Amendment of theirs… something about freedom of speech, or something?

  17. To Michael Duff:

    No, not if you’re from Utah.
    LDS control everything that state, lock, stock and fucking barrel.

    As for Missouri, this bad, very bad.
    Soon, I suspect they will outlaw, sodomy, homosexuality,
    gay adoptions and goat-fucking.

  18. Fuck Jeff City. Anyone who lives in MO realizes it’s a worthless city. God damn, I need to move.

  19. Whereas, our forefathers of this great nation of the United States were white and used the principles thought of by white people as the founding principles of our nation; and

    Whereas, as citizens of this great nation, we the white majority also wish to exercise our constitutional right to acknowledge our race and give thanks for the many gifts our race has provided; and

    Whereas, as elected officials we should protect the majority’s right to express their racist beliefs while showing respect for those of other races; and

    Whereas, we wish to continue the wisdom imparted in the Constitution of the United States of America by the founding fathers; and

    Whereas, we as elected officials recognize that a Master Race exists above and beyond the institutions of mankind:

    Now, therefore, be it resolved by the members of the House of Representatives of the Ninety-third General Assembly, Second Regular Session, the Senate concurring therein, that we stand with the majority of our white constituents and exercise the common sense that voluntary white pride in schools and racist displays on public property are not a coalition of race and state, but rather the justified recognition of the positive role that white people have played in this great nation of ours, the United States of America.

  20. I’m rather certain that in Massachusetts, its still an on the books law that, while fucking, women can’t be on top.

    The world stopped making sense to me back in ’86, which, coincidentally, is also the year I was born.

  21. In response to comment 6 above, I am a lawyer, and the proposed resolution does conflict with the 1st amendment via the 14th, which (to put it far too simply) makes sure that the states cannot violate the Bill of Rights. However, I don’t trust the Supreme Court to take this view. 14th Amendment case law has usually had to do with equal protection and civil rights, not the Establishment Clause.

    In any event, though I’ve never read the MO state constitution until today, I found this in its Bill of Rights:

    Section 5. That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences; that no human authority can control or interfere with the rights of conscience; that no person shall, on account of his religious persuasion or belief, be rendered ineligible to any public office or trust or profit in this state, be disqualified from testifying or serving as a juror, or be molested in his person or estate; but this section shall not be construed to excuse acts of licentiousness, nor to justify practices inconsistent with the good order, peace or safety of the state, or with the rights of others.

    Make of it what you will.

  22. As another Missouri native, I’m torn between reactions of “oh, crap, first Ashcroft, now THIS?!!” and “…meh.”

    Well, at least the atheists are safe. We don’t have a deity for the legislature to discriminate against.

  23. I studied literature rather than law (read: i procrastinated, consumed far too much sugar, and spent a lot of time reading Terry Pratchett novels), and it seems ot me that the “according to the dictates of their own consciences” passage of section 5 of the MO constitution would allow for diverse expressions of religion (provided they don’t bother anyone, aren’t too sexually suggestive, and don’t break any laws), making the official religion of missouri (if they followed their own state contitution) religion in general.

    or, fi they want to get specific and require official religions be christ-based… a friend and i were discussing the origins of Easter one spring and she went off and started the Church of the Zomboid Jesus. their main holiday is Zombieaster, commemorating the day Christ rose from the dead to feast upon the flesh of his own apostles after they had eaten of his at the Last Supper.

    There should be a Zomboid-christian rally in missouri, complete with consumption of brains.

  24. This may not be the place or time for this, and I’m not sure I can explain myself fully here, but I believe that Christianity causes Sin. Wrongdoing is real, and presumably predates Christianity, the notion that justice and mercy come from god or gods as well, but what I’m seeing is a church that exists to promote and sustain wrongdoing by suggesting it is our nature to be bad, it can’t be helped. The fruits of this labor can be seen everywhere you look; understand, I’m saying that you lot, all pierced and tattooed, are the traumatized children of the church, more so than Jesus ever was.
    My Missouri is a land of old hills, forests and rivers; the meth labs, the puppy mills, the crack dealers who own the streets of St. Louis owe their existence to the Christian Church, and not to the misguided notion that they are apart from it, above it or beyond it. It IS a Christian state, and it’s a damned shame.

  25. Godsinheaven, what is with Revonrut? That of his is one of those extremely dangerous thoughts that go around and eventually make a very stupid group of people feel confident enough to *kill* for their theoric superiority.

    Repeat after me:
    Religion doesn’t make anyone a drug dealer. People are people, no one is inherently anything. Where you are born does *not* defines anything in your morale, as well as who you’re born from doesn’t make you a better or worse person. Everything comes from how you see the world and what you’re willing to do about it. Actions, ideas, not gods.
    People can change, humans are amazingly adaptable and personality and strength of will are the only things we always have and never lose (besides a soul if you are willing to believe in it).

    Matters of faith are matters of faith, but your faith isn’t you (as your parents aren’t you, as your country isn’t you, as your job isn’t you). You are so much more than all that (and if you don’t belive that, then you should consider, it would improve your life).

    Sorry about the rant, y’all.

  26. I give this about thirty seconds before the Supreme Court before it’s laughed off the fucking books.

    Religion is an opiate for the masses. It’s a tool of control. It’s a set of guidelines that you did not come up with yourself. You know the reason I don’t kill people? It’s not because I don’t want to. It’s not because there’s some law telling me I can’t. It’s because I don’t want some other fucker to kill me. So we have an agreed upon set of guidelines. I don’t kill, they don’t kill. This works for me.

    The justices, even that new moronic one we just slapped in there, will take one look at this and go “Pull the other one, mate, it’s got bells on.” Sure, the President’s gonna say it’s fine by him, but seriously, who pays attention to him anyway? Anyone with even the slightest bit of constitutional law knowledge should be going “Hang on a minute…” And that’s all it takes.

    Just because the majority wants something doesn’t make it right. I don’t know how many times I need to drive this point home…

    ~c.

  27. The two obvious questions are how are they going to prosecute non-christians, and which particular branch of the church will they favor? When they shoot the resolution down, will this guy cry and moan about being persucuted? You bet your ass he will.

  28. I’m with Devinoch here (msg #26). Crackpot bills are handed through state legislatures all the time. They’re very easy to propose, much harder to pass, and often advanced as a tactical measure (to sound out your support) or as a matter of principle. I’ve come as a rule of thumb to write off all doomsday scenarios that just say “a bill has been introduced” or anything to that effect. If they pass it and it’s signed, then I’ll panic. But I’d lay down a month’s salary they don’t.

  29. In Australia, we have a saying about America:
    The Land of the Brave (if you have a gun)
    The Home of the Free (if you’re white).

    And yes, many people put Jedi on their census forms.
    That’s /another/ thing imported – unfortunately – from
    America. Sigh.

    Or, as we say, Invest in Real Estate!
    Meaning: Buy a cliff and push America off it.