God Loves Batman

July 20th, 2010 | brainjuice

Okay, this is a complete repost of something Kelly Sue DeConnick posted on her site earlier in the day. I would just send you there, but Neil and Wil just did that and it fried her server. So I’m just copypasting on the fly. Everything below is written by Kelly Sue. Here we go:

Okay, so, Fred Phelps and his family of hateful bigots are getting a lot of press for their planned appearance at (or near?) the San Diego Comic Con. The man lives for attention and confrontation. If you see him there, don’t sneer, don’t scream, don’t confront, don’t point and laugh–DON’T ACKNOWLEDGE. Ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore…

EXCEPT! We need some help in the form of a time-keeper or two, letting us know exactly how long the patron saint of backwards thinking and his family manage to stand and scream in the California sun. Then, by all means, do stare–at your watch! Make a note of what time it is and alert the internet that they’re there/still there. (But do it quietly and from a polite distance, will you?) Go get yourself a cold drink and check back every now and then until we have an approximate time count. Like… here would be good. Or on Twitter, with the hashtag #godlovesbatman

Why? Because in the spirit of love, we are pledging to donate $50 to amfAR if Phelps and his crew actually show up (often they don’t) and $10 an hour additional to amfAR for every hour they stay. And we’ll make our donation in Fred’s name.

We’d love you to join us.

(And we’d really love to be able to post a tally of how much we’ve raised.)

Repost far and wide, my pretties.

EDITED TO ADD:

  1. We’ll be donating to amfAR, but Sam and Ginny have both suggested the Human Rights Campaign. Either seems appropriate.
  2. Looks like the WBC is only scheduled for 45 minutes. (Lightweights!) If that’s the case, we’ll round up to $100–but times are tough and you shouldn’t feel like you have to do the same or not participate. $7.50 is better than nothing. $57.50 is peachy and cute.
  3. There seems to be some confusion–you don’t need to be at SDCC to pledge. We’re doing an online donation via this link.

This is Warren again. It’s just been mentioned to me that “lots of LGBT folks are anti-HRC,” in which case interested parties might like to donate to NCLR or EQCA instead.


25 Responses to “God Loves Batman”

  1. Not being familiar with HRC, why would some LGBT people be against it?

  2. I usually don’t donate online. This however is a worthy cause in so many different ways that I cannot resist.

    I’d go so far as to say that it would even benefit myself, knowing that there’s a lump sum being donated in his name to these organizations.

    Because: While I do not hate anyone, I certainly dislike people who inspire hatred. And if they get a little angry, why shouldn’t I be able to transform some of their petty anger into joy and cheer?

    Give generously. It’s for several good causes.

    -F.

  3. Yeah, we did this same type of pledge drive for the GBLT scholarship fund when Phelps and his FAMILY, (they aren’t a group, they’re his brainwashed kids) picketed a High School graduation in Iowa.

    It pretty much made him piss off.

    Oh yeah, and warn people NOT to become violent, not only is it the wrong thing to do, but I am led to understand that some of his “adult” children are lawyers, and LOVE suing people who swing on this guy, no matter how much he deserves a broken face.

  4. I usually try for some level of understanding and tolerance, but picketing a comic book convention is so far beyond the range of WBC’s usual psychosis that I can’t even begin to wrap my head around it and it’s just pissing me off.

    Fred Phelps? Darling? Just die and burn in hell already, you miserable fucking goat-monster.

  5. Yes. The majority of the Phelps clan are lawyers. That’s how they make their money, by suing the pants off of people who attack them, or prevent them from speaking.

    So, no violence, no confrontations; just shun them. The only reason they are there is to get a rise out of people. They are the real life version of internet trolls.

    And for a laugh, go on YouTube and find the video of Michael Moore and how he dealt with them.

  6. My Danger Sense has warned me that Reverend Phelps is planning to do a no-no at Dragon Con, in Atlanta, Georgia USA, which means that they may crash and invade my concert without permission!

    And I may be THE ONLY ONE who can stop his evil, fans!

    Which means that if I can’t use my powers or my fists, I may have to use my proverbal and literal wits!

    DANGER WOMAN

  7. Most of what I’ve read on the LGBT-against-HRC community comes from Andrew Sullivan of The Atlantic. (http://www.google.com/search?q=Andrew+Sullivan+HRC will bring you plenty to read.) Basically, he thinks HRC doesn’t fight hard enough (completely blowing the Prop 8 campaign) because they’re too afraid of alienating the elected officials they have access to.

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  9. The Westboro Babtist church has done great work in promoting acceptance of LGBT people in America.
    By associating gay-bashing with ludicrous arguments and hatred of America they have managed to reach a lot of the mid-western set that were raised to be suspicious of gay people and brought them into the fold.

    The longer this asshat preaches his hate, the more he will taint the cause of the “reasonable” homophobes.

  10. Considering the crowds at comic con, I would be hard pressed to even spot Fred Felch, much less pay attention to him.

  11. Ah.. That cleared it up for me a bit.. Dropping the ball like that doesn’t do the HRC any favours. Hadn’t heard much about that since I’m not in the US.

  12. It would be kinda nice though to have one of those United Way-style thermometers across from them with a big “How Much Fred Phelps is Donating to amFAR” sign on the top.

  13. Two years ago they protested outside a naval hospital where I was doing a rotation as part of medical school. I was told that my white coat was “part of the nazi-fag agenda.” They followed the schedule as described on their website. In at 8:00 gone by 9:00 with about 15 for setup time.

    Punctual group of social fomites.

  14. I can’t even bring myself to be annoyed at WBC, they are so ridiculous. They’ve made painting mean signs their life’s work. And now they are taking their life’s work to Nerd Prom. Because, apparently, that’s a good market for mean signs.

    *blink* Okey-dokey. Have fun with that, WBC!

    This is a great idea, though. I’m a big fan of Zen Revenge. (zen revenge- if someone is a douche to you, go do something nice for someone else. You’ll feel better, and the douche doesn’t get to make you feel bad for long.)

    People who don’t want to donate to amFAR or HRC or whatever have all sorts of other options. There are tons of worthy groups around, there’s no wrong way to do this particular bit of activism.

  15. This was a lot more original when it was God Loves Ninjas and I did it in response to “God Hates Fags” back in 2006. Thanks for stealing the foundation behind my four-year old internet persona. You’re welcome for the response it’s getting, by the way. I’m glad a joke you didn’t coin is going to good use.

    godlovesninjas on AIM
    godlovesninjas at Gmail

  16. Given that Sullivan spent most of a decade gleefully pissing on every gay activist group in the country except the Log Cabin Republicans, let’s just say I find his criticism of HRC a bit rich. (For those who came in late, our Andrew was the darling of the right wing for anti-gay-rights quote fodder until sometime in the early ’00s, when getting caught cruising online for bareback sex without mentioning his HIV-positive status alienated most of HIS pals in the conservative crowd.)

    But like any donation, pick who you think will do the most good with the dosh.

  17. There’s been a lot from the T* community from HRC commonly dropping our issues because it’s easier so they tend to be more of an LGB thing than an LGBT inclusive group and they’ve drawn some criticism from that as well.

  18. I don’t often agree with Sullivan, but he’s absolutely right about the Human Rights Campaign. I would recommend the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, who are well-practiced at fighting for GLBT rights on a state and local level, as a replacement:

    http://www.thetaskforce.org/

  19. Wow. Nice to know that even in the 21st Century people are still ass backwards in how we treat other human beings. Why are organizations like this that spread hate almost always connected to some type of church?

  20. Most GLBT folks, including myself and my wife, loathe HRC because of the way that they treat the T part of the equation. Lest we ALL forget, Stonewall was started by Ts and drag queens who were sick and DAMNED tired of being rousted by the cops. According to HRC, the T community has NO place in their plans to get ENDA or Marriage Equality passed, since Ts had absolutely NOTHING to do with gay rights. I was personally told this by one of the higher-ups IN the HRC organization, and the organization has publicly stated the same thing.

    My wife is an M2F T. Ts are the most marginalized of the equation to begin with, and being basically told to go sit in the corner, play with our crayons and SHUT UP is not something that the HRC is supposed to be doing, regardless of what they’re telling everybody now. As for Andrew Sullivan: Hypocrisy is never pretty, and he’s pretty blatant about his.

    Donate to AmFAR, Marriage Equality, or Camp Courage.

  21. in 2007 a lot of the trans folks quit or were fired or something from HRC because HRC basically decided that it was more convenient to drop trans issues from the anti-discrimination employment bill it was working towards.

    An HRC employee was hitting on a friend of mine at a bar, and when he (my friend) told the HRC employee how mad he was about dropping trans issues, that employee looked to my friend and said “oh, you trans people are just so difficult.”

    Basically, HRC is fighting only for mainstream acceptance of gays and lesbians. Boring.

  22. Please don’t consider these guys “harmless whack jobs”.
    For one thing they are mean, spiteful people who are all lawyers who work in state and federal courts, often running for public office.
    The father went out of his way to destroy some poor woman’s life just because she got him court documents late – the account is horrendous. He was eventually disbarred, Not for his abuses of this woman, her rights, or the state court system – but because he was caught in perjury. He continued to work in the federal courts despite being disbarred on the state level.

    They have press/publicity, your attention, and the attention of people who are whack jobs and not harmless.
    They know how to use and abuse the law to their advantage.

    They are a threat to anyone who is different or free thinking.

    As an artist, a father, and a spiritual person – I find Fred Phelps the f’n anti-christ. He may not be the worst, or the most powerful, but he’s am awesome combination of everything I hate.

    Does he eat live kittens with a spoon yet?

  23. Outside of his bigotry, there is one thing to realise about Phelps. One absolute example of the type of person you are dealing with.

    He was thrown out of his old church for punching a baby during mass.

  24. My first exposure to Phelps was at a post-9/11 gathering, kind of a mass “WTF?” It was an odd and fragile atmosphere, blessedly lacking in political posturing or finger-pointing, nothing but mutual support.

    Then I saw these people unfurling a huge banner which to my amazement said “9/11 doesn’t matter, you’re all burning in hell anyway.” I decided against walking up to them and asking them, “Um, how exactly do you figure…?”

    Instead, I ignored them that day and every day since. Like Pete Townsend said, “Let’s forget you, better still.”

  25. Well, on the negative side, folks at Comic-Con don’t seem to be ignoring Phelps.

    On the positive side, they’re doing a pretty good job of not ignoring him:

    http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/07/22/super-heroes-vs-the-westboro-baptist-church/